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IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG) REPORT FROM THE IETF MEETING April 8th, 1993 Reported by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items. These minutes were compiled by the IETF Secretariat which is supported by the National Science Foundation under Grant No. NCR 8820945. For more information please contact the IESG Secretary. iesg-secretary@cnri.reston.va.us. ATTENDEES --------- Bradner, Scott / Harvard Coya, Steve / CNRI Crocker, Dave / SGI Crocker, Steve / TIS Gross, Philip / ANS Hinden, Robert / SUN Huizer, Erik / SURFnet Knowles, Stev / FTP Software Mankin, Allison / Locus Reynolds, Joyce / ISI Rose, Marshall / DBC Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI IAB Liason Christian Huitema / INRIA Regrets Chapin, Lyman / BBN Kahle, Brewster / WAIS Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet AGENDA ------ 1. Administrivia o Roll Call o Welcome to New Area Directors o Bash the Agenda o Approval of minutes - March 18th 2. Protocol Actions o X.400 Routing Coordination (experimental) o Multiprotocol over ATM AL 5 (to Proposed Standard) o FYI on What is the Internet? (informational) o FYI on Introducing the Internet (informational) 3. Working Group Actions o Authentication and Access Control o Mail and Directory Management 4. Tasked Items o RPC & NFS o IP Security WG Charter o IP Address Guidelines A/S o WAR with RIP o RIP A/S o Revised IPLPDN WG Charter o CIDR AS 4.5. RFC Editor Actions o String Representation of Standard Attribute Syntax 5. Waiting For AD Action Prior to Last Call o Specification of TNFS Extensions o Echo function for ISO 8473 o PPP IPXCP o PPP NCP MIB o Bridge MIB o PPP SEC MIB o PPP LCP MIB o DNS MIB o IP Multicast on Token Ring o Network News Transfer Protocol <RFC977> 6. The following are up for DRAFT status o The Finger User Information Protocol <RFC1288> o Telnet Linemode Option <RFC1184> o Transmitting IP Traffic over ARCNET Networks <RFC1201> 7. Management Issues o Alignment of the Working Groups o Area Directorates o Compressing TCP/IP Headers o DHC o IFIP Email Management MINUTES ------- 1) Administrivia o Welcome to New Area Directors Phill Gross welcomed 4 new Area Directors, Scott Bradner (Operational Requirements), Lyman Chapin (Standards Management), Brewster Kahle (Applications), Allison Mankin (Transport and Services) and Marshall Rose (Network Management) to the IESG. Dave Crocker has shifted positions to Service Applications. The IESG Secretary gave a brief overview of the on line files to assist in the management of the IESG and agreed to send a more comprehensive review to the IESG. ACTION: Vaudreuil - Send an introduction to the IESG Status Tracking Database to the IESG. o Approval of the Minutes The IESG Approved the Minutes of the March 18th Teleconference. o Next Meeting The IESG agreed to meet May 15th, 11:30-1:30 ET. The IESG reviewed and affirmed the goal/dream/fantasy of only meeting bi-weekly while recognizing that this was not likely to be a reality for the near future. 2) Protocol Actions o X.400 Routing Coordination The Area Director review of this protocol is still underway. IESG review was deferred until the next meeting. o Multiprotocol over ATM AAL5 The IESG completed its ballot at this meeting and approved the IP over ATM AAL 5 as a Proposed Standard. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce to the IETF the IESG acceptance of the IP over ATM protocol as a Proposed Standard. o What is the Internet The User Services Working Group reviewed the document "What is the Internet" and has asked that it be published as an Informational Document. The IESG had no objection to the publication of this document. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a note to the RFC editor indicating that the IESG has approved the "What is the Internet" document as an Informational Document. o FYI in Introduction to the Internet This document is a short executive overview of the Internet. It was reviewed by the User Services Working Group and was approved by the IESG for publication as an Informational Document. 3) Working Group Actions o Authentication and Access Control The IESG is still waiting for a brief architectural statement describing how this working group relates to the CAT and NASREQ groups. o Mail and Directory Management The Mail and Directory Management group met for the second time at the last IETF meeting. Refinements to the charter are being negotiated with the proposed chairman. o Open Document Architecture At the request of the Working Group chairman, the ODA Working Group was concluded. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a note announcing the conclusion of the ODA Working Group. 4) Tasked Items o RPC and NFS With the assignment of the NFS and RPC protocols to the new Service Applications Area Director, the IESG agreed to given the NFS and RPC protocols another 3 weeks as proposed standards until the new Area Director for Service Applications can come up to speed. RFCs 1094 and 1057 are being considered for historic status as they do not accurately reflect current implementation and use of NFS. ACTION: DCrocker -- Work with Bob Hinden to get agreement from Sun to standardize the NFS and RPC protocols. o IP Security Working Group The IP Security Working Group is being held up waiting for an architectural statement identifying the problem space to be addressed relative to other security related Working Groups. o CIDR A/S The first pass on the CIDR Applicability Statement has been written. A significant issue is the necessity to reference BGP Version 4, a protocol still defined only in Internet Drafts and not yet submitted for standardization. o Wide Area Routing with RIP The Wide Area Routing with RIP document was reviewed by the Routing Directorate and was found to have many good ideas. Comments received by the directorate have been addressed by the authors. It is still not clear which Working Group should be tasked to review this specification. o RIP Applicability Statement No progress to report. 4) Waiting for AD ACTION There is a significant backlog of protocols waiting for Area Director attention. This backlog was reviewed and is expected to be cleared soon with the new IESG staffing. The following tasks were (re)assigned among the Area Directors. o Specification of TNFS Extensions Steve Crocker o Echo function for ISO 8473 Dave Piscitello o PPP IPXCP o PPP NCP MIB o Bridge MIB o PPP SEC MIB o PPP LCP MIB o DNS MIB Marshall Rose o IP Multicast on Token Ring Bob Hinden (Reviewed in the Mobile Host WG) o Network News Transfer Protocol <RFC977> Erik Huizer or Breswter Kahle 5) Draft Standard Protocols Expired in Grade The IESG began a discussion on the specific requirements for advancement to Draft Standard. The IESG has taken the position that all options and features must be implemented and tested, but the exact implementation of this has not been explored in depth. There was a tension between the desire to make sure the protocols were completely implemented and tested and the understanding that comprehensive protocol testing was not something that is practically possible. The IESG agreed to add this to the agenda for a future teleconference. The IESG accepted the following protocols as protocol actions to be reviewed for Standard Status or continuation in the standards track. o The Finger User Information Protocol <RFC1288> This protocol will be reviewed by the Applications Area for elevation to Standard. o Telnet Linemode Option <RFC1184> The Telnet Linemode Option will be reviewed by the Applications Area for elevation to Standard. o Transmitting IP Traffic over ARCNET Networks <RFC1201> The IP over ARCNET specification will be reviewed for implementations and operational experience by the Internet Area Director. 7) Management o Alignment or Working Groups With the selection of new IESG members and the creation of the Service Applications Area, several working groups were re-aligned. The IESG made the following changes from the proposed alignments published in the December 14th,1992 Minutes. - Dynamic Host Configuration will move to the Service Applications Area once the current work in client-to-server protocols is accepted by the IESG. - The OSI Directory Services Working Group is primarily focused on White Pages applications and was therefore shifted back to the Applications Area. - The MHS-DS Working Group is focused on the use of the X.500 directory for roles similar to the current use of DNS and was shifted into the Service Applications Area. The boundaries between areas are not formally defined and are only loosely understood. The IESG Area Directors each took an action to write 1-2 page descriptions of their areas, focusing on the centroids of activity. It was discussed and agreed that fuzzy boundaries between the areas was desireable to avoid artificial conflicts and allow informal load balancing among Area Directors. ACTION: All-- Write a short description of the scope of each area with the intention of defining the scope of activity and identifying areas not covered. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Compile area descriptions and distribute to the IESG. o Area Directorates The IESG has long committed to forming Area Directorates for each area to assist in the comprehensive review of protocols, formation of Working Groups, advising of Working Groups, and the development of architecture. With the new IESG members in place, these directorates are being formed. There are difference in implementation among the Areas and ideas were shared informally on the specific duties and structure of the directorates. o Compressing TCP/IP Headers The IESG discussed the current state of the TCP/IP Header Compression draft and brought the new IESG Area Director for Transport up to speed. It is hoped that Dave Borman will be able to provide the IESG with a corrected version of the ASCII document so this protocol can be elevated to Draft Standard. ACTION: Mankin -- Contact Dave Borman and work out whatever arrangements are necessary to secure a new version of RFC 1144. o Dynamic Host Configuration The work on server-client portion of the Dynamic Host Configuration effort is hopefully complete. This effort has taken far longer than intended and is increasingly critical to the internet, both in terms of mobile host configuration and with the possibility that host renumbering technology may be needed for the next version of IP. The Internet Area will continue oversight of current client-server protocols and the Working Group will transition to the Service Applications Area for the server to server protocol. o IFIP Email Management The IFIP Email Management group has met for 3 meetings as a BOF and would like to continue to meet. They have proposed a Working Group charter to satisfy the requirements that a BOF meet only once. The IESG was not enthusiastic about assuming management responsibility for an effort which did not originate in the IETF and is largely complete. The IESG agreed that this group is a bit unusual and could meet one additional time at the Amsterdam IETF meeting. Appendix - Summary of Action Items Assigned ACTION: Vaudreuil - Send an introduction to the IESG Status Tracking Database to the IESG. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce to the IETF the IESG acceptance of the IP over ATM protocol as a Proposed Standard. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a note to the RFC editor indicating that the IESG has approved the "What is the Internet" document as an Informational Document. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a note announcing the conclusion of the ODA Working Group. ACTION: DCrocker -- Work with Bob Hinden to get agreement from Sun to standardize the NFS and RPC protocols. ACTION: All-- Write a short description of the scope of each area with the intention of defining the scope of activity and identifying areas not covered. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Compile area descriptions and distribute to the IESG. ACTION: Mankin -- Contact Dave Borman and work out whatever arrangements are necessary to secure a new version of RFC 1144.